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We started this podcast with open hearts and warm coffee.
Just two voices following whatever pulls our attention. The strange, the sweet, the quiet. The small moments that turn into something bigger when you really let them in.
That’s what episode 2 is about: love in all its tiny, everyday forms.
The first sip of creamy coffee.
A crooked cabin floor that makes you feel like you’re floating.
A birthday sign from Dollar Tree that says “Happy Hirthday” instead.
And the breath it takes to say goodbye.
In Episode Two: Love and Coffee, we explore:
creamy coffee,
pirate radio, FCC agents, and broadcasting without permission
birthdays, breath, and grief, sometimes all in the same morning
a tribute to Sarai’s sister, her Golly Sis.
It’s soft and silly, open and honest.
The kind of episode that makes space for laughter, for love, for remembering what matters.
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EPISODE 2
[00:00:00] The Musician: Hey everybody.
[00:00:10] The Writer: I’m the writer.
[00:00:12] The Musician: I’m the musician.
[00:00:17] The Writer: Cheers some more.
[00:00:18] The Musician: Oh, cheers, my love.
[00:00:23] The Musician: So last time we talked about everything and nothing.
[00:00:31] The Writer: Yeah, that’s right.
[00:00:33] The Musician: But if we talk about everything, it’ll take too long. Like infinite time. Yeah. To talk about everything. And if we talk about nothing, it’ll be over too fast. So we should just talk about something.
[00:00:49] The Writer: Let’s do that. Let’s talk about something.
[00:00:53] The Musician: What would you like to talk about?
[00:00:55] The Writer: Little Moments of Love [00:01:00] and
[00:01:01] The Musician: Big Moments of love.
[00:01:02] The Writer: Big Moments of love too.
[00:01:05] The Musician: Actually, that’s, um, one of my favorite songs by Art of Noise, moments of Love, really Moments in Love.
[00:01:12] The Writer: I wanna hear that with you.
[00:01:13] The Musician: That’s a really good one
[00:01:14] The Writer: today. Do you wanna listen to it? Sometimes today I have it
[00:01:16] The Musician: on vinyl.
[00:01:17] The Writer: Oh, I have heard it. Then I think when we were at the cabin, yes, and like we were listening to all those records for days, it was amazing in the out little Alice in Wonderland cabin,
[00:01:32] The Musician: that floor,
[00:01:36] The Musician: that was the craziest floor. I, I at first felt like I was tripping and I. Literally then was tripping. ’cause I would walk and lean over and try to lean back and then it would go the other way.
[00:01:50] The Writer: It like messed with the equilibrium, like to go up to go to the bathroom in the middle of the night. I was like, oh my God, [00:02:00] I gotta make it to the toilet.
[00:02:02] The Writer: And then like when I sit there, like, am I gonna fall off?
[00:02:06] The Musician: Yeah. Every, every moment was a little journey. Just trying to get from the couch to the fireplace was like. A little hill and then, and then a decline, and then it turned to the left.
[00:02:18] The Writer: And to think that like a house could be like that, it was so, but really subtly, like you can barely notice it, but it is there.
[00:02:26] The Writer: It was like, to
[00:02:28] The Musician: think you say barely notice when I first walked in, it looked like Escher drew it. It was defying gravity like. Is that the floor or is that a wall?
[00:02:38] The Writer: I love, wait a minute, usher. That’s the perfect description for this little crazy cabin. Yeah, it was like Usher
[00:02:48] The Musician: and they had a record player and some records and then I brought my own records.
[00:02:53] The Writer: Oh, we had so much music there. And then listening to the ones that you know, we’ve never heard [00:03:00] before. They had some, I was surprised they had some good, oh yeah. Good tracks there. Wow. I have it all written down somewhere. All the ones that I loved.
[00:03:09] The Musician: Oh, that’s cool. I think it was even funny to me. I think you were writing down some of the ones that are in my collection and I’m like, they’re right there.
[00:03:16] The Writer: That’s right. Yep. So today’s my birthday.
[00:03:23] The Musician: Oh yeah.
[00:03:23] The Writer: Mm-hmm. It’s my hearth day, actually.
[00:03:31] The Musician: If you ever go to the Dollar Tree. And you get a happy birthday sign. Buyer beware when someone’s not paying attention instead of a B, they put an H
[00:03:46] The Writer: so it’s happy birthday when you hang it up.
[00:03:54] The Writer: Oh,
[00:03:58] The Writer: so it’s my birthday. [00:04:00] Cheers.
[00:04:02] The Musician: Oh, cheers. My love.
[00:04:06] The Writer: Oh, I love coffee. Oh,
[00:04:09] The Musician: yes. And coffee loves you.
[00:04:13] The Writer: Mm, thank you. Coffee for all you give me.
[00:04:18] The Musician: And I love coffee. I love you. It’s like a,
[00:04:25] The Writer: I love you. I like the,
[00:04:28] The Musician: it’s like we have an open relationship with coffee.
[00:04:32] The Writer: We do a very open relationship where every morning I
[00:04:39] The Musician: feel compersion. Yeah. With the happiness that the coffee’s giving you.
[00:04:47] The Musician: I like to watch.
[00:04:53] The Writer: I like to watch you, Eric, with your coffee.[00:05:00]
[00:05:02] The Writer: And I like to listen to your delicious radio voice.
[00:05:07] The Musician: It was pirate radio
[00:05:10] The Writer: back in your twenties.
[00:05:11] The Musician: So my radio voice would be like this pirate. No wait. Really? No. Was there, it’s not back in a pirate. Oh. And I did college radio and pirate radio and some whatever I could do. Really?
[00:05:23] The Writer: Why do they call it pirate radio?
[00:05:25] The Musician: Uh, because it’s illegal.
[00:05:27] The Writer: Oh, right on.
[00:05:29] The Musician: So it’s. You know, you have to get licensing to get your bandwidth and your towers and have communications to FCC, so like it’s actually federal level FCC violations to put broadcasts out into the airwaves that are not commissioned by the Federal Communications Commission f fcc.
[00:05:50] The Musician: So it sort of makes sense.
[00:05:53] The Writer: Yeah.
[00:05:54] The Musician: However, then it also doesn’t make that much sense because. Why would you need [00:06:00] a permit to play music? Or why would you need, uh, permission to something to express yourself somehow, artistically, you know,
[00:06:09] The Writer: or some legal document that says you can do it.
[00:06:13] The Musician: Yeah. That you can share music with the community somehow.
[00:06:15] The Musician: It all, it all then fades away when you start to think about it in some more.
[00:06:20] The Writer: Yeah.
[00:06:20] The Musician: Idealistic or, uh, whatever terms. No, it’s, it’s, it’s
[00:06:25] The Writer: the pirate.
[00:06:26] The Musician: It’s illegal. So Pirate radio, they get their tower because they want to do radio and they don’t want to get all the documents and pay all the money and do all the things.
[00:06:33] The Musician: And, uh, next thing you know, you’re broadcasting. And while we were doing it, the feds came, the black suits people came to our door. What? And what said, we know you’re doing pirate radio. We’ve triangulated, we’ve found you, and. And we just wouldn’t answer any their questions and we said nothing and told them to go away.
[00:06:55] The Musician: They’d left some documents, but we moved the transmitter and just kept going. [00:07:00]
[00:07:00] The Writer: That’s what you gotta do. Just keep going.
[00:07:03] The Musician: Pirate radio’s fun. ’cause then you don’t have to have commercials and well now it doesn’t matter now people just twitch and stream and
[00:07:11] The Writer: Yeah, the
[00:07:12] The Musician: Internet’s sort of this free, it’s so
[00:07:14] The Writer: different.
[00:07:14] The Writer: Yeah.
[00:07:15] The Musician: Free. You know, it’s not pirate when you’re on the internet, you’re just doing it. But some. That was nineties, right? Yeah. Somehow. Yeah. FCC controls the airwaves. Controlled the airwaves.
[00:07:28] The Writer: What was that? Oh, we’re talking about something, right?
[00:07:31] The Musician: We are talking about something. We’re definitely not talking about nothing.
[00:07:34] The Musician: And again, if we talk about everything, it’s gonna take way too long. So,
[00:07:38] The Writer: yeah.
[00:07:39] The Musician: Yeah. And
[00:07:40] The Writer: at many times throughout this conversation, we might do all of it. Talk about nothing, talk about something, talk about everything.
[00:07:48] The Musician: Well, talking about nothing leaves an empty space. What happens is there’s a likelihood or at least a, a capacity for that empty space to be filled with something.[00:08:00]
[00:08:00] The Musician: Hmm. So in That’s a perfect frame. Talking about nothing is a perfect frame for talking about something because
[00:08:07] The Writer: winning the Pooh and agree, fill in the silence
[00:08:10] The Musician: it. Who’s this character?
[00:08:13] The Writer: Winnie the Poh
[00:08:14] The Musician: named. Poo
[00:08:20] The Writer: would understand.
[00:08:24] The Musician: I’m like, I know.
[00:08:25] The Writer: Why did this, why did they name them? We need them. Poo poo.
[00:08:32] The Musician: Well poo bear. But I don’t know what a poo bear is. I know what a brown bear is and I hope they’re not the same thing.
[00:08:37] The Writer: Is a poo bear an actual. Bear name, like maybe besides Winnie, the Pooh name, like breed of bears,
[00:08:45] The Musician: brown bear, black bear, polar Bear Poo bear.
[00:08:50] The Musician: Are you sure we’re gonna Google this?
[00:08:55] The Writer: Oh, we just looked at our Banksy painting and it says, love is the [00:09:00] answer.
[00:09:01] The Musician: Love is the answer. And if you ever find that. As a prescription, love is not working, you should double the dose.
[00:09:13] The Writer: Absolutely. Dr. Dr. Pirate,
[00:09:23] The Writer: Dr. Delicious voice.
[00:09:25] The Musician: This is my radio voice and this be my pirate voice.
[00:09:30] The Writer: A kiss. Both pirate
[00:09:31] The Musician: radio voice are.
[00:09:34] The Writer: Kisses to all of your voices. So the something that I would love to talk about today for my birthday that I’ve been thinking about for quite some time is talking about all the things we love in life.
[00:09:53] The Writer: All of the little things, like all of the random things, the obvious things, [00:10:00] all of the like not obvious things. Everything extraordinary. Everything just ordinary, like anything that comes to mind. I know there’s so much, and I just, I love conversations with you because I love where our conversations go, and this is definitely an important conversation to me right now.
[00:10:26] The Writer: A side note is that my sister right now is dying of cancer. And it might be her last day today of life on this Earth. And so that’s why I thought this would be a really, really wonderful conversation to have to remind and get in touch with all those little things in life. Like sometimes living life can be so automatic.
[00:10:53] The Writer: We don’t necessarily really let moments affect us. [00:11:00] So
[00:11:02] The Musician: will they affect you whether you let them or not?
[00:11:05] The Writer: Yeah. Yeah.
[00:11:06] The Musician: So it comes out somewhere.
[00:11:08] The Writer: I’m talking more in the sense of opening your heart more, of course, to be affected in a way that really touches you, like even more so than usual. I think that’s just a space where I’m at right now.
[00:11:25] The Musician: Well, I love your sister. And she’s, I love her too. Such a beautiful person with a beautiful light. She has this wonderful glow that shines on all of her friends and family and everybody that she touches. She’s really beautiful. Oh,
[00:11:44] The Writer: and for everyone, her name Shelly. My goal si either Shelly or my goal si.
[00:11:52] The Musician: And if you know, you know the reference,
[00:11:55] The Writer: yeah. Maybe some people will know the golly reference. Go. [00:12:00] It’s a scene from Parent Trap. The original. The original was Haley Mills. There’s this moment where both of them are at camp, they’re twins and they don’t even know that the other exists. One lives in like London or something, and the other lives in like California USA or something.
[00:12:22] The Writer: So they’re at the same camp and they’re looking at each other and they’re just kind of like, what’s up with this girl? You know, what’s up with this girl? But they have this moment, eventually. Where they look at each other and say, Goli sis, and then they hug. And that’s me and my goli sis. I always call her my goli sis.
[00:12:49] The Musician: I can say I loved how you always called her your golly sis.
[00:12:53] The Writer: Really? Yeah. You didn’t, you know that movie too, don’t you? Yeah. [00:13:00] Yeah.
[00:13:00] The Musician: Well it’s so special ’cause. It’d be hard pressed to find another pair of sisters where one of them calls the other one. Golly sis.
[00:13:08] The Writer: Yeah. I’ve never heard of that actually. It’s like our un our thing, right?
[00:13:12] The Writer: Like our unique like thing, even as it
[00:13:16] The Musician: comes from pop culture, somehow you make it your own.
[00:13:21] The Writer: Cheers to my sis.
[00:13:23] The Musician: Cheers my love.
[00:13:28] The Writer: It’s so creamy. I more, it’s like chunky cream. Do you know when your coffee gets junky Sometimes. Is that ’cause I haven’t taken a sip in a while
[00:13:40] The Musician: Probably,
[00:13:42] The Writer: but I did take a sip. I don’t know where that came from. It’s the heavy
[00:13:45] The Musician: cream though.
[00:13:46] The Writer: Oh yeah. ’cause we had heavy, it says it right in the title cream.
[00:13:50] The Writer: Heavy.
[00:13:51] The Musician: Heavy because when they called it chunky cream, it didn’t sell as well. Yeah. Heavy cream sells better than chunky cream.
[00:13:59] The Writer: Oh [00:14:00] gosh. Definitely sells better. I want that to be the first thing that I love about life is creamy coffee.
[00:14:11] The Musician: Mm. I love lamp.
[00:14:17] The Writer: What movie is that from again?
[00:14:19] The Musician: Anchorman.
[00:14:20] The Writer: Oh yeah. What’s the context again?
[00:14:23] The Musician: They’re actually talking about, have you ever been in love? And one of ’em says, you know, I think I have. But then they say, oh no, that isn’t love. And they’re the other one’s, you know, trying to say that they’ve been in love before.
[00:14:39] The Musician: But then the one newscaster who’s not very bright. Just starts naming things in the room. I love Floor. I love Table, I love Lamp.
[00:14:53] The Musician: And they ask him, do you really love the lamp or are you just naming things in the room? He goes, I love lamp. I, I love Lamp. Like
[00:14:58] The Writer: I doubles down. I [00:15:00] really love LAMP
[00:15:01] The Musician: and I always love that quote. Yeah, because you said say anything random.
[00:15:05] The Writer: Yeah.
[00:15:06] The Musician: That you love in life. And whenever I think of the most random thing to love,
[00:15:10] The Writer: I love lamp.
[00:15:11] The Musician: I love lamp until you know then. Yeah, like your daughter plays a band named LAMP for us. I
[00:15:19] The Writer: love Lamp
[00:15:22] The Musician: and they’re really good. I like Lamp.
[00:15:26] The Writer: You know what else? I love my Earth Day.
[00:15:31] The Musician: Yeah. How many people have, have had a Earth Day? Do you think that’s like a common, do you think there’s like a thousand of those out there?
[00:15:39] The Musician: And if somebody opened it up and it said Happy birthday, did they actually hang it or throw it out and go get a new one?
[00:15:44] The Writer: Do you think they threw it out? Yes. And got the one that has a bee. Oh yes.
[00:15:48] The Musician: People are intolerant of stuff like that. That doesn’t become something they put up with. They, they write the company.
[00:15:56] The Musician: You ruined my kid’s birthday.
[00:15:59] The Writer: Oh [00:16:00] my God. Right? Like, like the nu dollar tree that was like trying to learn how to spell and then all of a sudden was like, wait, mama, isn’t it like spelled with a B?
[00:16:13] The Musician: Or the kid has a speech impediment? Are you making fun of me?
[00:16:21] The Writer: Yeah, like some, like me when I stuttered as a little girl B was, would be harder to say than birthday. Like I’d be like
[00:16:33] The Writer: birthday, but with birthday it just comes out really good.
[00:16:41] The Writer: Lose your breath. That’s another thing I love about life. I love breath. I love my breath. I love to feel my. My voice and my breath, my I, I can feel it from my stomach, like coming up through my throat, [00:17:00] even in my esophagus. I feel it.
[00:17:06] The Writer: And then I get to say words with my voice, with my breath.
[00:17:13] The Musician: Breathing is an interesting one. You can say that you love breathing. But even if you never said anything about it, everybody loves breathing. That’s almost inherent with each breath. There’s so much love. It’s, it’s giving life.
[00:17:39] The Writer: It’s so generous.
[00:17:40] The Musician: And then you feel like love itself is sort of a breath, taking love in and.
[00:17:45] The Musician: It’s love out and yeah, giving and receiving, like you receive life from the breath. You receive love, self-love breathing, deep breathing. [00:18:00] It’s like the most important thing in life, but we take it for granted. Most people think about breathing the entire day. They do it all day, but they don’t think about it at all.
[00:18:09] The Musician: They wouldn’t talk about it. Think about it just happens. And then I’d like to think that in that same respect, love happens like that. And once you become conscious of it, mm, there’s a beauty to it. But even unconscious. Without trying, without thinking, you’re, you’re taking in the love which would be breath and you know, water and food and self love and self care, all that love you’re taking in and you give out.
[00:18:41] The Musician: And some people it’s really, they. They’re, you know, cleaning, purifying the air, the water, bringing food, and giving that to people, giving love. And the simple solution is give more love out to the world and see it come back to you.[00:19:00]
[00:19:00] The Writer: I love that so much. I experience it all the time like that. Like at the flower shop, I work at a flower shop. And yesterday was really, I think that’s why that day was so magical is ’cause my intention was so strong on just giving love in any way, whether it was through creating a flower bouquet for somebody, collaborating with them, walking around, picking flowers, or even a conversation, you know.
[00:19:38] The Writer: And then I just noticed it just kept getting bigger and bigger. You know, like the moment expands and turns into another thing and another thing sparks that, and then it just keeps on and it’s beautiful.
[00:19:58] The Writer: And I am looking over here and [00:20:00] I see our Camp Creamy. This is Camp Creamy ending this episode with love sharing. So much love with you and a cheers.
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