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Do humans create art, or does art already exist in nature, waiting for us to join in? From spiderwebs spun under the stars to the golden ratio etched in our bones, we explore how creativity is not something outside us but something ancient, pulsing through everything alive.
We talk about Fibonacci spirals, birdsongs, mycelium networks, the Art of Noise, and those moments when nature outshines any gallery. We talk about grief too. How rituals, memory, and beauty intertwine. How mushrooms grow from decay. How art sometimes hurts, and in that hurt lives something sacred.
This episode wanders through science, philosophy, and the quiet poetry of natural creation. It’s a reminder that we don’t stand outside of art. We’re woven into it.
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🎨 Andy Goldsworthy
🎥 Rivers and Tides
🍄 Fantastic Fungi
🎼 Luigi Russolo — The Art of Noise
🎧 Art of Noise
🖼️ Auguste Rodin
🖼️ Vincent van Gogh
🖼️ Edvard Munch
📖 Richard Bach — Illusions
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Episode 5 Art in Nature
[00:00:00] The Musician: Hey everybody.
[00:00:10] The Writer: I’m the writer.
[00:00:11] The Musician: I’m the musician
[00:00:13] The Writer: and welcome,
[00:00:14] The Musician: welcome. Cheers everyone. Cheers. Grab some coffee, settle in, and as we continue to talk about art or. You know, everything and nothing. Something in between. I think that something inevitably becomes art for us, like natural for us to talk about art.
[00:00:42] The Writer: Yeah. That’s our jam. We love it.
[00:00:46] The Musician: For today. I wonder, is it humans that create art or is it just nature that creates art? We’re a part of. Artistic creation itself, [00:01:00] like in nature, is there just art that happens and we then are inspired to be a part of that natural process of creating art. That’s why we’re we’re driven to create this art because of say, the beauty of a sunset or a spider’s web or waterfalls, or things that are beautiful in nature.
[00:01:25] The Musician: Is nature creating art and we’re then inspired by that to create our own art? Or,
[00:01:31] The Writer: or is it that, is
[00:01:32] The Musician: it just a human Yeah.
[00:01:33] The Writer: Every living, breathing person or nature animal or, um, we all have a, perhaps a creative impulse inside of all of us that streams through our blood or through the wind or through the water.
[00:01:52] The Musician: I, I believe that it’s natural, like, uh, it’s a part of love. There’s, there’s a love [00:02:00] that you have for life, the universe and everything that, that you feel the most in art and nature and spirituality and, uh, music and, and love, and, and there’s these things that. Uh, I sort of gravitate towards naturally my life.
[00:02:20] The Musician: I feel like those are the things that the more you give to them, the more they give back. And it seems like that’s nature saying yes to you and your, your love and your heart, like that you, when you show up to life and give, it gives back to you. And,
[00:02:39] The Writer: oh my gosh, that’s so beautiful.
[00:02:42] The Musician: Like music is one big one that so beautifully said.
[00:02:45] The Musician: I find the more you give, the more it gives back. The more you get involved with music, the more you applaud. The more you dance, the more you sort of freak out. Because music is so good.
[00:02:58] The Writer: Freak out.
[00:02:59] The Musician: The [00:03:00] better the music gets, the better that the enjoyment. And it’s a, it’s a, it’s a vibe. 10 people listening to a song, a hundred people listening to, you know, a concert, uh, you know, thousands of people.
[00:03:15] The Musician: Listening to music amplifies and, and, and ups, ups the game. So then I wonder if then nature has that artistic quality within it, and that’s why it’s so deep inside of us and why we can feel it and why we resonate. Uh, like we were talking about last episode. Do you need inspiration to create art? And in this topic, I’m saying that I still believe that the inspiration already exists within us.
[00:03:48] The Musician: Naturally.
[00:03:50] The Writer: If in nature, if there’s an intelligence within nature that’s moving,
[00:03:55] The Musician: yes,
[00:03:57] The Writer: everything into creation, into being. [00:04:00] And if we also have an intelligence that. Is inside of us. Deep. Inside of us too. And that it’s gotta be the same intelligence. Right?
[00:04:13] The Musician: The Fibonacci sequence. Yes.
[00:04:15] The Writer: Yeah. Our fingers
[00:04:16] The Musician: are representative of the Fibonacci sequence.
[00:04:19] The Musician: If you break down the math of the digits of our hands and how we grow and how plants grow in the sequence, and how things tend to go to this golden ratio and
[00:04:29] The Writer: the golden ratio, yes.
[00:04:32] The Musician: If it’s already there and we’re just a part of it, then we’re responding to our natural impulse and a vibration, an artistic vibration.
[00:04:39] The Musician: And you’re either blissfully unaware of it or sort of blissfully aware of it. Like there’s a, there’s a duality, a, a balance to say you could scientifically study it and, or you can just get it from the streets. Or, you know, like, yeah, there’s either, let’s go to school and learn how to be an artist or just do art and [00:05:00] just.
[00:05:01] The Musician: Those two people can end up with the same amazing amazingness to their art, like Banksy versus, you know, a classically studied master. It all doesn’t matter at at the eye of the beholder what effect your art has on other people. And the same with nature could walk by something and someone sees beauty and another person just sees.
[00:05:29] The Musician: A flower or a waterfall or a spiderweb. So is the art just in nature? I don’t know. I once bought a ticket to a movie and I had the ticket to the movie and I was sitting outside waiting for, you know, to go in and I saw this spider creating a web, and it had just begun with the first few strands, and then it was making the outer.
[00:05:54] The Musician: Like it goes on the outside and it was making the outer edges of the web and I didn’t go to see the movie. I sat there [00:06:00] for over an hour watching the spider create the web, and I got my money back.
[00:06:05] The Writer: That is the best movie right there.
[00:06:11] The Writer: The director was there, the producer, the the main star, and the audience. My,
[00:06:21] The Musician: I wonder if the spider knew that I was watching. He was making it better. He’s like, oh my God, I gotta do a good job. This guy’s watching me.
[00:06:28] The Writer: He, the spider has like six more eyes than you. Right? 6,000 more eyes. So I definitely saw you,
[00:06:39] The Writer: I mean, it’s such a big topic that this one, because if it just is art, like it’s happening in nature. But then like you were talking about Andy Gold’s worthy I love and how he takes it to a new level.
[00:06:59] The Musician: I [00:07:00] love, there’s a movie, river and Tides, and it shows his process and he goes and does art with leaves or ice or rocks or just, he takes nature and puts it into artistic formation.
[00:07:15] The Writer: Oh, so it’s like a symbiosis.
[00:07:18] The Musician: Yeah. Like in a way who’s, uh, who’s the greater artist? The, the one who paints the apple or the apple itself? Like the, the one who has Right. You know, the flower arrangement or the, you know, the one that takes the picture of the flower arrangement. It’s almost like we talk about a fractal or inception where there’s art inside of art, inside of art, and maybe at the core.
[00:07:46] The Musician: We ourselves are giving back artistically to that art that created us.
[00:07:53] The Writer: Oh, yes, yes. There’s definitely a birth that [00:08:00] happens and every time we create something and then the little birth is happening all the time, and the new leaf that comes in the spring or
[00:08:09] The Musician: birth and rebirth
[00:08:11] The Writer: over and over and over. And so much every day,
[00:08:17] The Musician: like birds,
[00:08:18] The Writer: it’s like we’re given birth like just by opening our eyes to a new day.
[00:08:22] The Musician: Birds singing, you know, after the rain or to start the day, there’s this beautiful music, this nature. And so then here as as human beings, we’ve created all these instruments and create our music. You know, maybe initially back in the day we were trying to emulate birds or the sound of the rippling river or
[00:08:48] The Writer: Hmm.
[00:08:49] The Musician: You know, just the sounds of, of nature. Yeah.
[00:08:52] The Writer: The wind moving tree branches and all the, there is leaves on it. I love that sound.
[00:08:59] The Musician: An art [00:09:00] to noise. The, uh, futurist composer, the 1920s, uh, Luigi Olo. It was a musician and it created a manifesto called The Art of Noise, and he was saying that all noise in in the world is art.
[00:09:19] The Musician: That noise is art and can be music and can be like used. And this is, it’s such an outdated concept now because all of our music uses any, sounds, anything. I mean, everything is is valid. Sampling is, it’s just, it’s everything. All noise and all forms of sound that could be possible get put into our music these days.
[00:09:41] The Musician: But back then it was just violins and guitars and drums and certain instruments like that you could, those were musical instruments and everything else was just noise. And he sort of broke the barrier and said, no, there’s more to it. It’s an art of noise, art of music, and that’s the band Art of Noise is giving thanks to Luigi Slo [00:10:00] for saying that we could use any noise we wanted in our, in our music.
[00:10:06] The Musician: So there again, is it that we are the only ones that create music? Or is there perfect music out there in nature with the birds and mm-hmm. Wind and rivers and
[00:10:18] The Writer: Oh, definitely. We hear it when we’re, you know, at the creek. A waterfall.
[00:10:25] The Musician: Some hear it,
[00:10:25] The Writer: we hear it. Like, I mean, a car honking.
[00:10:30] The Musician: Yeah. Or, or the gears turning or, yeah.
[00:10:33] The Writer: Yeah. Like I, I remember you one time telling me that when you’re cooking, sometimes when you’re listening to music, you’ll chop your vegetables, like to the sound, the beat of the whatever you’re listening to. Like stomp.
[00:10:47] The Writer: Yeah.
[00:10:48] The Writer: And you’ll get into it and you’ll make music with the knife. So you cut.
[00:10:52] The Musician: Or, you know, even something silly like a fart.
[00:10:57] The Musician: But then it’s so musical where, how Yakovich [00:11:00] has put those in his, in his song, he had a guy that used to do percussion for him that would make fart noises with his hands and that was the beat.
[00:11:10] The Musician: So
[00:11:14] The Musician: the part of noise
[00:11:19] The Writer: maybe. A lot of the art that we create in our days and our nights aside, the art that happens in nature, maybe part of it happens so we can just become in tune with it, like in tune with this frequency.
[00:11:40] The Musician: I feel that I think
[00:11:42] The Writer: it really helps. I know it helps me, like personally what that I’ll feel a bit lost or something in myself and then.
[00:11:50] The Writer: I’ll create some kind of art and I’ll feel a big sense of concentration and focus, and then [00:12:00] I just feel clear in myself and connected,
[00:12:03] The Musician: well, it’s a great word you used frequency like vibration. You know, people talk about vibes or you know, feeling the vibration and getting down with things. And that’s why I’m, I’m curious then about if that vibration or that frequency or that harmony just comes from nature itself and we, we actually, like you said, feel like we lock into that and when we find that within ourselves, that, that we’re really getting to know ourselves better.
[00:12:39] The Writer: Yeah. It’s so powerful. Isn’t that what that is? Anyway, like that. Kind of that, uh, vibration that we feel inside when we feel passionate or enthusiastic about something and we tune into that. Yeah. And we do it or move closer towards it. Yeah. [00:13:00] Whatever it be. And then what I mean, do,
[00:13:04] The Musician: do, do art, make, make good art.
[00:13:06] The Musician: Yeah. If you feel anything we’re saying either go out to nature, it’s, and get your inspiration or just. Lay it down. You’ve already got it. Inside you go, go make music, go make art.
[00:13:16] The Writer: At that point, I mean, even though I say, and then what? But at that point, when you’re in it, it doesn’t even matter. And then, and then, and then, then what?
[00:13:29] The Writer: Because you’re just in it. You’re in it. You’re in the flow. You’re in the zone. You’re in the passion and passionate, enthusiasm. You’re in your curiosity, you’re in. That place of listening inside of yourself for what is next.
[00:13:49] The Musician: Sort of talking about last episode, the do you need inspiration for art? And if we agree that it’s a no, then someone like Austin Cleon saying, uh, you know, he [00:14:00] says his first book was Steal Like an Artist, but then his other ones make it work and show your work.
[00:14:05] The Musician: And he was just trying to say. It’s something you have to do, like you just keep going. Yeah. Like do it, do it, do it.
[00:14:14] The Writer: Yeah.
[00:14:16] The Musician: And it’ll get better. It’ll, you’ll, you’ll feel it, you’ll gain more inspiration. You’ll, you’ll fine tune everything from actually just getting into it. So some people would say, oh, I’m uninspired and, and I, I don’t feel like doing it.
[00:14:31] The Musician: And maybe that’s irrelevant or unimportant. Your job wants you to be productive, so they sit you down nine to five. 40 hours a week and, and make you focus and do the work. And if you were that, if you were that relentless of a boss to yourself
[00:14:47] The Writer: Oh yeah. If you boss
[00:14:48] The Musician: yourself to be like that and get down and get, get to it.
[00:14:52] The Musician: Be an boss that, yeah. You wouldn’t need necessarily inspiration. Be great if you found inspiration. But [00:15:00] we are already, we already have it within us, so just, just release it by putting the paper to the pen, putting. Hands on the instruments or,
[00:15:10] The Writer: or like that beautiful roomy quote that says, if you wanna access, you know, love, then remove all the barriers.
[00:15:20] The Writer: Mm.
[00:15:21] The Writer: If you’re not feeling inspired to create something, or if you’re not feeling productive, then ask yourself, remove what is in the way of that. Like, what do I need to let go of or surrender?
[00:15:35] The Musician: I forget if it was Hemingway or why some artists drink so much, or why some musicians take drugs or they, they removing the barriers and feeling so uninhibited.
[00:15:47] The Musician: They just go forth. Mm. Bravely and, and with a, you know, reckless abandon, like, go to the, the most artistic adventures, uh, because there’s, there’s nothing in the way. [00:16:00]
[00:16:00] The Writer: Damn. If it was that easy all the time, huh?
[00:16:05] The Musician: But then, yeah, you can’t, that’s a, a crutch. You can’t like lean on the alcohol or the drugs or whatever you, I think you have to find it within yourself.
[00:16:13] The Musician: ’cause
[00:16:14] The Writer: Yeah, I don’t know who talked about it or who brought it up first, but they said in order to become a brilliant. Artist, you had to draw 10,000 shitty totally shitty drawings.
[00:16:31] The Musician: And, and maybe that’s
[00:16:32] The Writer: what we need to do to remove our,
[00:16:35] The Musician: have to number 1, 2, 3. You have to number each piece of art, and once you hit 10,000, it’ll be good.
[00:16:44] The Musician: Nine 90. Exactly. 10,999. Shit. Pieces of art and one good one. Keep going.
[00:16:57] The Musician: It’s the only thing in the way of your [00:17:00] best art, 99,999 or,
[00:17:04] The Writer: and if you’re a writer, then that’s how many pages you have to write.
[00:17:07] The Musician: I’m sorry, 9,999.
[00:17:09] The Writer: 9,999. Don’t let the
[00:17:11] The Musician: math get in the way. Just, just, yeah, that, just do it.
[00:17:14] The Writer: That’s a barrier.
[00:17:17] The Musician: And maybe that’s a good thing to note too, that even some of the things that you aate yourself, you know, oh my God, this is so amazing.
[00:17:23] The Musician: This is the best thing I’ve ever done. Maybe that ego gets in the way of creating something even better because you go, oh, that’s me peaking. Oh, that’s the best I could do. And it’s not even close. We
[00:17:34] The Writer: have no idea. Yeah, pretty much until we take our last breath, we have no idea. We’re still always working towards our potential.
[00:17:45] The Writer: Our potential’s always growing and it’s so fluctuates so much because just like we have good days and bad days as people, our art is also gonna go through that too sometimes.
[00:17:59] The Musician: Yeah, and [00:18:00] I think that’s another, something within the topic we’re talking about, like. Don’t worry, look to art. Nature finds a way.
[00:18:08] The Musician: You see a little blade of grass growing out of a crack in the, in the cement. You think that you’ve,
[00:18:13] The Writer: I love, I see that covered the
[00:18:14] The Musician: forest, but the forest is like, no, we got, we got this, and it’ll just break through and find a way to create more. Oh
[00:18:21] The Writer: my gosh. I just wanna bow to those little plants that come up through the sidewalk.
[00:18:29] The Writer: They’re just like, fuck yeah. Like, I’m here, I’m doing this.
[00:18:36] The Musician: That’s that. Um, like removing the barriers, like you said, I think that some people feel that. They feel stifled by the cement and then they get so happy when they blossom and break through and come out. You know, your development as a human. Some of your best moments feel like they break you, like, um,
[00:18:54] The Writer: break you a metamorphosis
[00:18:55] The Musician: like yeah, cocoon, like you break out, become that butterfly.
[00:18:59] The Musician: The great quote [00:19:00] from, um, illusions by Richard Bach, what is the caterpillar to one? To the master is actually a butterfly. I, I’d have to look up the exact quote, but yeah, in, in most people they would see the caterpillar and, and the master sees the butterfly and breaks the mold and, and makes it as beautiful as it could be.
[00:19:22] The Musician: And here again maybe, or cheers. Cheers to that. It does that. Cheers.
[00:19:33] The Musician: I gotta say, my coffee has never been hotter. I have this new Yeti mug and it’s
[00:19:40] The Writer: so wonderful. I can’t
[00:19:41] The Musician: believe normally 20 minutes in my coffee would be just dead cold, but this stuff, it, it, it’s so hot. It feels like I just poured it. It’s hot. Yeah, it’s so hot.
[00:19:51] The Writer: It’s so hot. Yetis are expensive, but they’re worth it.
[00:19:56] The Writer: I just thought of this time when I took a [00:20:00] painting class and our teacher took us all into the museum where the school was at and shared some of the art pieces with us and we were just talking about them and there was this one huge, it was massive, and they were birds that were like bloody and. The wings ripped off.
[00:20:26] The Writer: Um, it was a really disturbing painting and so we were all talking about it and I don’t know, it just was disturbing. And so, I mean, is that art? You know what I mean? Like is the nature, the hard things that happen in nature, which is all the time, is that art
[00:20:47] The Musician: and the art of life. Your, your last piece is.
[00:20:52] The Musician: Your death. First piece is your birth, and the last piece is your death and everything in between is your [00:21:00] compendium of work, the art of your life. Yeah. But we talked about this too, is, is art destructive? Is there destruction in art? Is it all creation or is it destruction? And on some level you do have to destroy things.
[00:21:15] The Musician: Yeah, I guess it
[00:21:16] The Writer: depends how it happened. Like in my eyes. If something happened in a violent way, I wouldn’t necessarily, like if a wing was ripped off of a bird in a really mean violent way from another animal, I don’t really see that as beautiful. Um, and I definitely don’t see it as artistic, like an artistic creation, just ’cause I don’t know.
[00:21:43] The Writer: Well, but it just, but if it was done in a different way, like,
[00:21:47] The Musician: but then in our nature, is there some beauty. To the love in our heart that we see the violence as abhorrent or distasteful. [00:22:00] Is there some beauty to the mechanisms that don’t we consider the most violent people and the most, like the worst serial killers?
[00:22:07] The Musician: The ones that feel nothing when they see this, this violence, destruction. And when they do these acts, when they don’t, they don’t feel the remorse or the pain or, and we consider that to be really. Horrible that they’re so disconnected. They don’t even, so the fact that you have this loving heart that sees it and knows that it’s violent or disturbing, there’s some beauty to the way you’re, you’re created to know, the love in your heart knows.
[00:22:36] The Musician: And so some people are like a mirror. Some artists are a mirror reflection showing the worst parts of of nature. Back to us and we then take that in to see the world more clearly and then know we would want it to be different. We would wanna make change and we’re, we’re called to action maybe.
[00:22:58] The Writer: Yeah.
[00:22:59] The Musician: Maybe something there. [00:23:00]
[00:23:00] The Writer: And I know that this might have taken a little turn, but it makes me think of when my sister, who passed recently, her husband. When he got her ashes, he put my sister’s ashes on along the stream of his tears on his face, and then went to the ocean and went surfing.
[00:23:24] The Writer: Hmm.
[00:23:25] The Writer: And that is both beautiful and sad, I felt.
[00:23:31] The Musician: Yeah,
[00:23:32] The Writer: and a big connection.
[00:23:34] The Musician: I think it’s not as much in our culture, maybe in New Orleans, but I think in other cultures they have more. Uh, reverence or interaction or ways that they honor the dead and that they have communication with the dead and they, and they, they have a relationship with death.
[00:23:52] The Musician: Things like that, that we don’t have. I think we’re, we’re
[00:23:56] The Writer: for sure. It’s so true. True. I think we
[00:23:59] The Musician: kind of [00:24:00] go to the wake one day and there’s a little stone that then represents that person and it’s, and it’s move on with life. Where in ceremony, like you had just mentioned, but the ashes, somebody can touch and feel more in touch with the, the, the passing
[00:24:23] The Writer: Yeah.
[00:24:24] The Musician: Ritual rituals that actually touch
[00:24:27] The Writer: Yeah. Connect
[00:24:27] The Musician: themselves to the, the people.
[00:24:31] The Writer: Yeah, for sure.
[00:24:34] The Musician: But then, um, the thing we saw about mushrooms recently, fantastic fungi on Netflix. Because it’s weird how beautiful all the mushrooms are, but so many of ’em are growing from death and, and poop and growing from these things that aren’t beautiful, but they’re, they, they grow into these beautiful things.
[00:24:51] The Writer: Yeah. That was, that is such a good show. It’s amazing that that whole show. [00:25:00] I wanna watch it again.
[00:25:02] The Musician: It was good.
[00:25:03] The Writer: I guess it was just a movie. It’s like a documentary. Yeah.
[00:25:09] The Musician: The art of the mushrooms. One of the parts of, we were talking about vibration and connection is how there’s these mycelium networks that are all interconnected and they’re like a neural network or like a brain network, and they, they’re all connected, so, oh, it’s so amazing.
[00:25:25] The Musician: Nature is talking to itself through these networks that are almost more fascinating than the internet or are.
[00:25:35] The Writer: That is definitely art. If we were to see that underneath,
[00:25:40] The Musician: oh wow.
[00:25:41] The Writer: The Earth’s surface. Oh, the beauty. It would look just like our brain. I know it would. With all the nerve tributaries and synapses and everything traveling and connecting and growing.
[00:25:57] The Writer: Even ones that [00:26:00] they’re still growing just like mycelium. It’s so beautiful.
[00:26:08] The Musician: Cheers. Cheers. Cheers. The beauty of nature
[00:26:11] The Writer: to the beauty of nature,
[00:26:13] The Musician: I’m wondering if, if nature creates art, not just when you give a monkey a paintbrush or there’s this elephants that can paint.
[00:26:22] The Writer: Yes.
[00:26:23] The Musician: Um, I don’t think that it’s proving the point by having animals create art in the way that we do.
[00:26:32] The Musician: Um, they’ll take penguins and have the walkthrough paint and then, and they’ll walk on the canvas and then they’ll sell that as art. So, I don’t know if it’s that nature creates the art the same way that we do. And I, I would say more that we’re trying to get down with nature when we create art. Um, what was the quote that you had?
[00:26:55] The Writer: Oh yeah, I’m gonna grab it. That’s right. It was a quote you
[00:26:59] The Musician: had about [00:27:00] nature and art.
[00:27:01] The Writer: Art is contemplation. It is the pleasure of the mind, which searches into nature, and which there divines the spirit of which nature herself is animated. And that was August Rodan.
[00:27:17] The Musician: Hold on.
[00:27:22] The Writer: There’s a few good ones here. Vincent Vanoff said. I have nature and art and poetry, and if that is not enough, what is enough
[00:27:33] The Musician: word? Yeah, that’s like me, uh, love and nature and music and art and spirituality.
[00:27:41] The Writer: Mm. And there’s
[00:27:42] The Musician: not much more. I would challenge people to find things that you give to them and they give back to you.
[00:27:49] The Musician: There’s, uh, there’s not much. Nature. If you give water, it would give you plants and beauty and flowers and things. And the more you feed these things, the more [00:28:00] they give back to you. Feed your art.
[00:28:03] The Writer: Oh, here’s another quote by Ed Edward. The munch nature is not only all that is visible to the eye, it also includes the inner pictures of the soul.
[00:28:15] The Musician: Like you said about seeing inside the mycelium networks or inside of our brain is a, is a a beautiful fractal, a beautiful. A picture not to, uh, condone the use of psychedelics, but one time on psychedelics, I, I went in a room and turned off the lights and closed my eyes, and I, there was no sound and I lie there for hours, just myself, and I could see and hear inside myself, and it was this beautiful, beautiful place.
[00:28:51] The Musician: The inner fractal that speaks to us. If, like we’re talking about if nature creates art, [00:29:00] we’re this, this myriad of cells that are, that are growing and, and, and re rebirth, death and rebirth of cells inside you and your cells keep growing and changing. Every seven years you’re, you’ve cast off so much dead skin and you’ve, you’ve regenerated so many cells that you’re a totally different person.
[00:29:18] The Musician: So there’s this. Constant, beautiful creation inside of us that maybe we need to speak to the world about through our art. Mm-hmm. And you need to be able to, to that’s find your center, find your, your inner peace, find your place that. That is so beautiful inside you that when you show it to others, it’s not the disturbing picture of, uh, birds with broken wings.
[00:29:47] The Musician: That teacher just really like
[00:29:51] The Writer: I was having a good day until that painting. I was like all inspired. Then I saw that.
[00:29:59] The Musician: Find your [00:30:00] beautiful place inside and show it to the world.
[00:30:05] The Writer: I wonder if Edgar the Mu, he said it that about his picture of his soul, so that that painting called the Scream, that was his soul. Like whatever he was going through.
[00:30:20] The Musician: Wow.
[00:30:20] The Writer: In that moment.
[00:30:23] The Musician: It is beautiful though.
[00:30:25] The Writer: It really is. I mean, we can all relate to it for sure. At one point or another,
[00:30:33] The Musician: did you wanna scream right now?
[00:30:35] The Musician: Yeah. Don’t do it.
[00:30:39] The Musician: Everybody turn down your radios.
[00:30:46] The Writer: Oh, the cat lifted her head. Like, is everything okay today? What would your painting look like, Eric? Of the inside of your soul,
[00:30:58] The Musician: it would be a little [00:31:00] lazy and sleepy. Nice. I got my, uh, booster vaccination yesterday and I think it’s, I think it’s messing with me a little.
[00:31:09] The Writer: Do you still feel it?
[00:31:11] The Musician: I can definitely feel my arm is sore.
[00:31:13] The Writer: Yeah. But I
[00:31:14] The Musician: feel a little low energy. Low. I feel low key.
[00:31:19] The Writer: Yeah. Low key is nice. I feel like we’ve been able to be low key today. That’s good. Get
[00:31:23] The Musician: bing. Some anime.
[00:31:27] The Writer: So fun.
[00:31:32] The Writer: What would my painting look like today? It would look like lock cake, potato pancakes, and it would look like snuggles. And love and cats. What else would be in there? Some laundry.
[00:31:56] The Musician: A big pile of laundry,
[00:31:58] The Writer: and soon to [00:32:00] be Greek cheese spiral with hot peppered jelly.
[00:32:08] The Musician: Sponsored by Trader Joe’s. Yeah. Our show today was sponsored by Yeti Coffee Mugs. Trader Joe’s Cheese Spiral.
[00:32:18] The Writer: Yum. Get it. Everyone get it? It’s like, it looks like art. It looks like a spiral.
[00:32:23] The Musician: It’s just a beautiful frack. It’s like the spiderweb Yeah. Of cheese.
[00:32:33] The Musician: Art is everywhere folks go. Go seek it. Go do it. Go be it
[00:32:39] The Writer: and then share with us what your experiences are.
[00:32:42] The Musician: Yay.
[00:32:43] The Writer: Cheers. Cheers. We love [00:33:00] you.